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Old 12-04-2008, 05:21 AM
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Mr Hastings,
I am glad you joined the forums. Do you have any thoughts or insights into the real story behind the missing nuke(s) on August 29/30 2007? The article is long but I am sure you will remember the incident.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=7158
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Hi Ally,

I don't know much about this incident other than what I read in the newspaper. I briefly scanned the online article you suggested, but have not read it carefully, so I have no comment at this time.

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Its Wonderful to have you here Mr Hastings, like others have posted i too enjoyed the episode you did here very much.

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Thanks for the well documented reply,mr.Hastings.UFOs & Nukes will definitely be the next UFO book I read.

The Malmstrom case is certainly one of the strongest ones out there,and these witnesses should be given immunity,so that they can testify before Congress.Hopefully,the next administration will put their money where their mouth is,and make some real changes in the way government operates - including more openness and transparency on this matter.


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Old 12-05-2008, 01:49 AM
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Hello all,

Following the publication of my book in July 2008, various individuals have written to me and asked permission to translate excerpts from it into Dutch and Portuguese. The excerpts in question are listed by title in my first message on this thread.

I am now seeking persons who are capable of competently translating English into Spanish, French, German, Russian, or Japanese (or, for that matter, any other language).

I have no funds to pay for these translations but firmly believe that the truth about the UFO-Nukes Connection should be made accessible to as many people as possible, including those who do not speak English.

Therefore, I am seeking volunteers, who understand the importance of "spreading the word" as widely as possible around the globe, to assist me in my efforts to get the facts out. The translated excerpts will be posted at many other websites, which cater to non-English speakers.

Those individuals wishing to contribute to this project may contact me at hastings444@att.net.

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UFOs over ICBM sites at Malmstrom AFB in November 1975

Now, a new excerpt from my book, UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites:

The following NORAD log entries, relating to the sightings at Malmstrom’s Launch Control Facilities and Launch Facilities, were listed in an official U.S. Air Force letter released to researchers in 1977, via the Freedom of Information Act. The time of each report is expressed in Z or Zulu Time, the military’s version of Greenwich Mean Time. My own comments, in brackets, follow a few of the log entries:

24th NORAD Region Senior Director’s Log (Malmstrom AFB, MT):

7 Nov 75 (1035Z) Received a call from the 341st Strategic Air Command Post (SAC CP), saying that the following missile locations reported seeing a large red to orange to yellow object: M-1, L-3, LIMA, and L-6...Commander and Deputy for Operations (DO) informed.

7 Nov 75 (1203Z) SAC advised that the LCF at Harlowton, Montana, observed an object which emitted a light which illuminated the site driveway.

7 Nov 75 (1319Z) SAC advised K-1 says very bright object to their east is now southeast of them and they are looking at it with 10x50 binoculars. Object seems to have lights (several) on it, but no distinct pattern. The orange/gold object overhead also seems to have lights on it. SAC also advised female civilian reports having seen an object bearing south of her position six miles west of Lewistown.

[Note that all of these reports refer to the observation of aerial “objects”. Apparently, the Security Alert Teams could not identify them as either military or civilian aircraft.]

7 Nov 75 (1327Z) L-1 reports that the object to their northeast seems to be issuing a black object from it, tubular in shape. In all this time, surveillance has not been able to detect any sort of track except for known traffic.

[In other words, when these sightings were first reported by SATs, radar personnel at Malmstrom AFB and Great Falls International Airport could not detect any unknown aerial objects near the missile sites. As we shall see, radar contact with the UFOs was finally established as the sightings continued to unfold.]

7 Nov 75 (1355Z) K-1 and L-1 report that as the sun rises, so do the objects they have visual.

7 Nov 75 (1429) From SAC CP: As the sun rose, the UFOs disappeared. Commander and [Director of Operations] notified.

8 Nov 75 (0635Z) A security camper team at K-4 reported UFO with white lights, one red light 50 yards behind white light. Personnel at K-1 seeing same object.

8 Nov 75 (0645Z) Height personnel picked up objects 10-13,000 feet. Track J330, EKLB 0649, 18 knots, 9,500 feet. Objects as many as seven, as few as two A/C.

[Height-finding radar finally confirmed that UFOs were present, varying over time between two and seven in number.]

8 Nov 75 (0753Z) J330 unknown 0753. Stationary/seven knots/12,000...two F-106...NCOC notified.

[Radar confirmed that one UFO, at an altitude of 12,000 feet, had hovered—that is, was “stationary”—before resuming flight at a leisurely 7 knots, or 9 mph. Shortly thereafter, two F-106s were scrambled to intercept it.]

8 Nov 75 (0905Z) From SAC CP: L-sites had fighters and objects; fighters did not get down to objects.

8 Nov 75 (0915Z) From SAC CP: From four different points: Observed objects and fighters; when fighters arrived in the area, the lights went out; when fighters departed, the lights came back on; To NCOC.

[As SAT personnel at four different locations watched, the UFOs played cat-and-mouse with the F-106s, extinguishing their illumination as the jets approached their position and re-illuminating themselves after the fighters returned to base. The NORAD Combat Operations Center (NCOC) in Colorado Springs, Colorado was immediately informed of this incident.]

8 Nov 75 (1105Z) From SAC CP: L-5 reported object increased in speed — high velocity, raised in altitude and now cannot tell the object from stars. To NCOC.

9 Nov 75 (0305Z) SAC CP called and advised SAC crews at Sites L-1, L-6, and M-1 observing UFO. Object yellowish bright round light 20 miles north of Harlowton, 2 to 4,000 feet.

9 Nov 75 (0320Z) SAC CP reports UFO southeast of Lewistown, orange white disc object. 24th NORAD Region surveillance checking area. Surveillance unable to get height check.

[Note the reference to the UFO having a “disc” or saucer shape. Two more log entries from November 9th confirm that UFOs continued to be reported by SAT teams positioned near various missile launch facilities. Then the action moved from Malmstrom to Minot AFB, in North Dakota.]

10 Nov 75 (1125Z) UFO sighting reported by Minot Air Force Station, a bright star-like object in the west, moving east, about the size of a car...the object passed over the radar station, 1,000 to 2,000 feet high, no noise heard...NCOC notified.

END OF NORAD LOG ENTRIES

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Old 12-05-2008, 02:03 AM
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UFO activates ICBMs in Soviet Ukraine in 1982


The following is a transcript from an ABC-Television News Prime Time Live segment about declassified Soviet KGB UFO files. The program aired on October 5, 1995.

DIANE SAWYER: In an ABC News exclusive first broadcast last October [1994] We asked ABC News Correspondent David Ensor to find out what's in the KGB UFO files.

DAVID ENSOR: During a five month investigation Prime Time obtained over a thousand pages of documents collected by the old KGB. We spoke to dozens of Russian scientists, government officials, and military men. We now know that the entire Soviet armed forces, a total of 15 million people over ten years, was involved in a UFO study that turned up forty major incidents, including one that prompted fears of starting an accidental nuclear war.

As a result of the study hundreds of UFOs were recorded and some were photographed. Some of the reports and some of the photos are clearly faked. But in other cases there were multiple witnesses.

DAVID ENSOR: October 4th, 1982 Byelokoroviche, Ukraine. Near a sleepy farming village our search brought us to perhaps the most frightening case of all, an incident that could have started an accidental nuclear war.

RUSSIAN MAN, EYEWITNESS: "I was riding a motorcycle not far from here. I saw a large object in the air. It had a perfect geometric shape."

DAVID ENSOR: Every person we spoke to in Byelokoroviche said they saw a flying saucer on that day. They told us it was huge, about 900 feet in diameter. For hours it hovered over the nearby ballistic missile base. Where Lt. Col. Vladamir Plantonev worked as a missile engineer.

LT. COL.VLADAMIR PLANTONEV: "It looked just like a flying saucer. The way they show them in the movies. No portholes, nothing. The surface was absolutely even. The disk made a beautiful turn, like this, on the edge just like a plane. There was no sound. I had never seen anything like that before."

DAVID ENSOR: Lt. Col. Plantonev took me to the ruins of what was then a missile silo with a nuclear warhead pointed at the U.S. It was dismantled 3 years ago after an arms reduction treaty. Plantonev was in the bunker on that day 12 years ago. In this room were dual control panels for the missile, each hooked up to Moscow. What happened next so alarmed Soviet Military leadership that a four man commission was sent to investigate, including Col. Chernovshev.

COL. IGOR CHERNOVSHEV: "During this period for a short time signal lights on both the control panels suddenly turned on. The lights showing that missiles were preparing for launch. This could normally only happen if an order were transmitted from Moscow."

DAVID ENSOR: No one had touched any buttons. No one had entered any codes. And yet as the UFO hovered over the base, the control panel showed the missiles were preparing to launch. For 15 agonizing seconds, the base lost control of its nuclear weapons.

Feb. 23rd, 1988. Six years later, at Kapustin Yar, near the Caspian Sea. It is Soviet Army and Navy day, a national holiday. An unidentified flying object appears on the radar screen protecting the military base. As the UFO moves toward central Russia the entire Soviet ballistic missile radar grid goes on alert. Several times fighter pilots are ordered to fire on the object. Each time the pilot would report that as he prepared to fire, the target had disappeared. Finally the UFO moved away for good.

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Robert, Im curious to hear your take on the possible origins of our 'visitors'. What do you think of theories such as crypoterrestials, where they are an intelligent non-human race that evolved here on Earth in parallel with humans. They live in deep undeground and under-ocean bases. What about the interdimensional theory?

How much weight do you personally give those theories (and others) compared to everyones favourite ETH?

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America drops two nuclear weapons on japan!! No surprise this guys have shown up dont you think? If we can use it on ourselfs we are capable if useing it on anyone, plus nuclear weapons of War World 2 probably have less blast radius than the ones we have today.
This ufo occupants seem to me at least like our little planet alot ok who knows even if they are strangers they could be here longer than us, so us fireing off nuclear weapons is not something they are all too pleased with?
The U.S. dropped atomic weapons on Japan, not nuclear.

Atomic weapons utilize fission (now obsolete, but in retrospect, a hell of a lot kinder--the first one dropped on Hiroshima was mostly a dud--less than 10% of it actually went off... the rest of it "fissiled" ) whereas nuclear weapons utilize fusion... about 1000 times more powerful.
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Hi Gareth,

Thanks for your inquiry about our visitors' origin(s). Having considered this question since the 1960s, when I was a teenager, I offer the following:

While the possibility of an advanced race other than humans inhabiting the Earth can not be ruled out, in my opinion, the odds are near zero. On the other hand, recent theories about parallel universes and higher-dimensional space (hyperspace) proposed by physicists such as Michio Kaku, make the idea of beings from other dimensions being here, simultaneously with us, less fanciful if not provable at the moment.

Another aspect of hyperspace theory is the possibility of faster-than-light (FTL) travel, which is achieved by temporarily exiting our four-dimensional space-time universe, traversing hyperspace for a period, at many times light-speed, then returning to a distant destination in our universe which would otherwise be inaccessible if linear travel from Point A to Point B were instead utilized--because the distance within space-time between the departure site and destination site is so vast. In other words, if hyperspace exists, interstellar and even intergalactic travel may be possible. If so, the odds are that some other race(s) in our universe have figured this out and developed a technology based on the concept.

Setting aside the highly-controversial abduction reports for the moment, and instead focusing on sightings of UFO occupants near a landed or low-hovering craft, the data suggest that we have several different groups of "humanoid" visitors, presumably from different worlds, because their physical attributes--facial features, skin color, height, etc.--varies widely enough to rule out, IMHO, a single point of origin for them. (And, yes, one of those races may be humans from the future, if some theorists are to be believed.) One of the best sources for information about occupant reports is at http://www.hyper.net/ufo/occupants.html

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Robert one of the things that always worries me about the theory that they are true extraterrestrials is the fact that many sightings of occupants are - as you say - of humanoid looking creatures. I.E. these creatures seem to be related to human beings in some way. How do you reconcile that with the theory that the visitors have no history with this planet whatsoever?
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