UFO bases on the Earth?

[freemars2259]

In Tim Good's book Unearthly Disclosure in the final chapter he writes that a source claimed that there are a number of Alien bases on the Earth. If the UFOs are piloted by beings from outer space with an interest in us and our planet it would make sense to me that they would setup permanent bases or colonies in hidden places (deep underground, undersea or in some other dimension) to save them the long voyage to and from their mother world. Perhaps deep undersea and underground bases could use geothermal power as an energy source. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

[fitzbew88]

Originally Posted by freemars2259

In Tim Good's book Unearthly Disclosure in the final chapter he writes that a source claimed that there are a number of Alien bases on the Earth. If the UFOs are piloted by beings from outer space with an interest in us and our planet it would make sense to me that they would setup permanent bases or colonies in hidden places (deep underground, undersea or in some other dimension) to save them the long voyage to and from their mother world. Perhaps deep undersea and underground bases could use geothermal power as an energy source. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Whether or not bases are needed depends on a lot of things we don't know.

I believe it was the late Karl Pflock who observed (and I'm not sure it was his idea originally) that the UFO phenomena has sort've mirrored a planetary exploration in a way that humans might do it:

Late 1940's: Mapping from a high altitude
1950's: Detailed mapping from a low altitude
1960's/1970's: Landings, limited sample collections
1980's-->present: Science project (abductions)

Of course, there are lots of exceptions and I don't necessarily buy the theory.

Bases on earth seem like an enormously risky tactic to me, as humans are always exploring.

I would rather put my bets on stealthy listening devices in orbit, or maybe disguised here on on the ground.

My guess is that distance is no longer a factor in their exploration, and they don't need bases here for logistical reasons. If the distance was as big a deal to them as us, I don't think they'd be here at all.

[freemars2259]

"Bases on earth seem like an enormously risky tactic to me, as humans are always exploring.

I would rather put my bets on stealthy listening devices in orbit, or maybe disguised here on on the ground."


That sounds reasonable enough to me, I suppose it all depends on how advanced the ETs are. My own belief is that there are more than one group of aliens active here on Earth, each with their own level of technology. Dr. Michio Kaku talks about type 1, 2 and 3 civilizations and theorizes that only advanced type 2 and type 3 civilizations could develop FTL travel. So if that is true any mid level type 2 civilizations and below would have to either establish bases on planets in other solar systems to save them the long voyage back and forth from their mother planet or stay at home. For their own survival it would make sense to me that they would go to other planets outside their own solar system.

[freemars2259]

Anybody else got any thoughts on UFO bases on Earth.

[The Pair of Cats]

Very plausible especially if they were deep enough within the earth and hidden well enough.

[freemars2259]

Originally Posted by fitzbew88

Bases on earth seem like an enormously risky tactic to me, as humans are always exploring.

I would rather put my bets on stealthy listening devices in orbit, or maybe disguised here on on the ground.

Perhaps some of these devices, if they exist, have fallen to Earth, this could explain some crashed UFO stories.

[Chuckleberryfinn]

The back of the moon, Mars, the asteroid belt, or various moons throughout our solar system would make a much better base, in my opinion, than the Earth. Why? Because it's easier to hide them off of the Earth. There could even be ancient, abandoned ET bases or colonies throughout our solar system. I think SETI should be looking for archaeological evidence throughout our own solar system instead of listening for radio signals.

If there are alien bases here on the Earth, you can bet your ass that probably no one knows where they are, not even the top-military brass. (see Dulce, NM, myth).

If there are alien bases here on the Earth, my guess is that the aliens actually live here, on the Earth, and communicate with their homeworld in a way that is fast and undetectable. We may be subjects of a galactic empire without even knowing it. The advantage of this is that we would have protection from hostile alien invaders, comets, asteroids, etc.

Of course, all of that is complete speculation. I don't pretend that I have any data to back any of it up. But this question is fun to think about.

Imagine what that Star Trek episode would look like. Captain Picard and the Enterprise come upon an uncharted system with one inhabited M class planet, a pre-warp civilization. But, what's this: sub-space communication signals coming from deep below the surface? Are the poor little darlings living on this planet being controlled and constantly decieved by a group of super-advanced aliens living in underwater and underground bases? Oh, my. Mr. Riker, what should we do? Should we abandon the prime directive and liberate these poor saps from those goddamned bastards who have imposed various religions and ideologies on them and who continue to abuse them in bizarre abductions throughout their lives? What kind of madness is this, Mr. Riker?

[The Pair of Cats]

I seem to recall that in many reports of UFO sightings there has been mention of UFOs hanging around or even disappearing into lakes/oceans. Also some seem to mention them disappearing into mountain ranges or mountainous regions.
I can't recall the specific cases, though.

[Chuckleberryfinn]

Originally Posted by The Pair of Cats

I seem to recall that in many reports of UFO sightings there has been mention of UFOs hanging around or even disappearing into lakes/oceans...I can't recall the specific cases, though.

http://www.waterufo.net/

[The Pair of Cats]

Originally Posted by Chuckleberryfinn

http://www.waterufo.net/

Cool!!! Thanks for that Chuckleberry!