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Old 11-26-2008, 08:33 PM
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as a psych op if i had aliens whos intentions i did not know, id fake another set of aliens whos intentions "they" dont know.... just to keep them guessing and hopefully honest so to speak
Damn, I thought I'd covered every base. That's a good one. That would explain the MilAbs, too. The military tracks down people who have gotten the royal roo-roo from 'aliens' and then puts their own version on top of it. Like stuffing spit-wads down a coin slot to screw up a vending machine.
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Damn, I thought I'd covered every base. That's a good one. That would explain the MilAbs, too. The military tracks down people who have gotten the royal roo-roo from 'aliens' and then puts their own version on top of it. Like stuffing spit-wads down a coin slot to screw up a vending machine.
it would be a typical reaction, thats for sure.

if all you know is they are here and collecting information, or what the military call "intel", and they are doing it in an obvious sneaky fashion.

by our own history that sort of behaviour usually happens prior to an invasion.

it makes sense to "turn the tables" and create the myth that there are aliens unknown to the actual ones here, and that thay may even be working with our goverment/s.

personally if i had nothing else to throw at the quandry of knowing something was here and collecting data, id make sure that some of the data they got kept them guessing

if we were to create a fictional alien species possibly in contact with our military and exchanging technology (as the story goes) then any "real" aliens would need to find out who these guys are before invading, jokers are wild after all.
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LMH is Art Bell in drag.
I'm surprised nobody cottoned onto this sooner.
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here are the pix I referred by Android from SF ..the first one , visible for you, is the one he did for that Bluetech of Oregon, while in Glorious Japan, while doing art exhibits and shooting a movie with GNN,the others , for another musical group Dragon Force, (Android loves to Party, festivals , right near or at where Chad and The Pis reside,Tree huggers and Pod People Jams, you name it, he will be there..I luv this guy He's a walking production studio!) and another for a game Metroid Echoes or something..or other.., a few months later before 2008 and release of his DVD. He recreated and got those vector nodes and applied them in two days don't ya think..yes..The designs must have had a "spiritual impact" on him when he saw first saw them..his prior work going back to even before 2006 http://androidjones.com/AndroidJones_Gallery.html however does show a peculiar similarity to them. Far be it from me to imply anything of course..
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...fig/dragon.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...2Oct110132.gif

You can also find many of his works with these special brushes in Corel Painter X and the the graphics suite which came out in March or April of 2007..Painter X - Digital Painting a tad bit sooner than Raj Ty or Isaac appeared. Andrew is a true visionary indeed or at least a great Remote viewer.I personally commend his co sponsorship with Dell computers , owners of Alienware, and best implementors of the Isaac Art, for that nifty Siggraph conference and jam in Ca, in August this year.
Now Thats what I call a team player. You go Android!
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MarsAve, I hope you come back..We miss you..Hope all is alright. your input is important and valued.
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Mars Has Returned and posted at OMF the following staement along with a well deserved Arse Chewing for me.
Even though he says he did not crack the case..Make no mistake..Thank goodness we had his eyes out there at that time..
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Where Is the Man Who Cracked the Case 9 Mos Ag
« Reply #12 Today at 8:55pm »


Hello to all.

I am going to post a statement here....and I did not crack the case.

after reading several websites for the last 2 weeks, gathering information, and seeing the guessing game going on, I've decided to offer a bit on this Forum only. I may or may not answer your questions...the reason being is very simple. I just plain do not have the time to sit and read and answer....very sorry I cannot partake, but since I offered photographic information on the Drone near Saratogas and Santa Cruz Summit earlier in the year and part of 2007 - I thought it would be fair to shed a bit of light on the subject, and correct a few misnomers.

Believe me when I tell you I am not a TYPIST..........!!

This posting here will take me considerable time to type- then go back and correct the errors. One of many reasons why I don't do this anyways....I just plain can't type. I use 2 finger hunt and peck method,,,,,

Ok. Ist off, I apologize for not responding to "whoever' was e-mailing me off-line months ago to go on-line and talk about the photos. Very sorry. I think I answered one e-mail...sorry. Both my Parents died in 2008 - my Mom in January - and my father in Seattle April 2008. Niether left a Will and the Probate work is horrendous....still on-going. So for all of the "Arm-chair Detectives" out there...that is a 'reason' someone may go silent...................yes, I actually have a Life,,,no slight to anybody reading this. I don't have the time. PERIOD!

As far as the 2 Private Investigators under TKDavis Investigations, they are very thorough, very nice Men - and I stand behind them and their credibilty 110% in their work. BFD on the T-Shirts. ...in fact, I may buy one as I need some new clothes to wear... - They have all of my info and contact numbers - I requested anonymity - which I may or may not explain here....but it isn't anything sinster. I just wanted my privacy for a few reasons.....but I have felt compelled to set some items straight.

There are a hundred items I've read about in regard to what I was involved in, but the one thing that made me go 'Silent' was the discovery and posting of my real name. That p*ssed me off big time...even though I have nothing to hide.....several posters here and other sites- such as MUR and 11Aug and others, stated it correctly....imagine yourself suddenly being thrown into the limelight. Posting my name seriously jeopordized part of this Investigation. Major reason I went Silent. Whoever thought they needed to do that - needs to go back to 'Armchair Detective School on Etiquette.." Sure, I have several monikers I have used and was 'found out' by some surfer, but the subject matter on those websites are mundane. I was that easy to find.....my postings on www.black-triangles.com and othersites are normal stuff. I read certain websites - but usually don't partake for reasons stated above. But the 'finding-out' angle like I was the Hoaxer was laughable....Geez, I gave all of my info to the 1st E-mail & photos of the Saratoga,CA - Big Basin Hwy area to LMH - and she never answered....so it was like, 'why should I care...?? People want to remain private for many reason, but in my case, I had an outlet to give information, but I am only a small part of the story - and I never wanted recognition - hopefully people reading this will let it lay. I won't be doing any interviews nor seek any fame. My finding of the photo locations isn't all that mysterious - other than I have a fairly good recollection of places I've been too...was why I remembered. The Hoax angle made me write LMH at 1st - only to set the story straight - I never thought in 2 years it would be such an issue. My earlier postings back up my statements.

' I feel 1000% the Drone photos are Fake - and looks to me, from my photographic experience, to be (old school..I'm over 50yrs old..) 'Superimposed' photos. The lighting isn't right.......I've been an Aviation photographer for 40+years, I have amassed a jet collection of over 150,000 photos and 25years of airliner & Railroad videotaping "as a hobby only"... and the photos look 'superimposed' to me....nowdays called CGI fakes..? Photoshopped? Flat out they look Fake just from the photographer's point of view - without any computer knowledge at all. One of my other downfalls, I don't know jack about computers, other than e-mailing and attaching pictures, and re-sizing photos in my crummy PS2.0 that came with the camera when I bought it, that's about all I know on computers. But the photos just don't look right to me. The long-winded EXIF report and 'same camera' angle was because a Canon Digital rebel is a common camera. I bought mine used from a fellow aviation photograher. I pretty much stood in the same place the Stephen photos were taken because there isn't much room on that hairpin turn, road shoulder,,,a very dangerous curve on a Mtn road...

So I know I've opened up 1000 questions, but all I can say is I had nothing to do with the apparent Hoax - in my words - the photo locations 1) Big Basin - I 1st alerted LMH with no answer....2) the Santa Cruz Summitt photos, I was not sure of the location, I thought it would be closer to an area called Mt Bielawski (sp) south of Castle Rock State Park on Hwy 35 in the Santa Cruz Mtns....I actually drove up there and looked but not until after I contacted TKDavis Investigations. I could not find the location......but, I did notify the Private Investigators( and I am not saying who for now..) and I did tell them the Chad photos ( supposed to be Bakersfield,CA area) those photos looked like the view point behind the old Summitt Inn & Restaurant on Hwy 17 at the Santa Cruz Summit(now a different name & owner?)....looking towards the Ocean. Truth...when those photo locations were publicized, It was from the PI's as they are the one's who checked my Lead, and found the location........again, I didn't have time to go look...but they found it - no problem...matched the tree line,etc...and the rest is History. They are the one's who found it. Those photos, from my photographic experience, are 'superimposed' phony pictures-also. I've always felt if the photographer was 'right on' they would find a way to be contacted and interviewed. I did,,,but look what happened.....so the discovery of the Chad location on Hwy 17 Summitt in Los Gatos wasn't sinister - I told the PI's to keep me out of it...because I really didn't care. Sure, it would be neat to get to the bottom of it......but my guess is the people starting this Drone Sighting item......are laughing big-time...!!!I thought the CARET documents looked good at 1st,,,,but then again, anybody can write a Novel.....


Just my thoughts..

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