The Roswell Poll!

[macavity]

What do people consider the most up-to-date/intelligent/objective/rational (etc. etc. you get the point) book on Roswell?

[Tommy Allison]

There isn't a poll category for it's all a bunch of bullshit, and people are just writing books for the sake of making money off of it.

[7 String]

I saw it on T.V. and Bill Birnes said it happened so that's all I need! LOL Put away the god damn flame throwers.......

Seriously, I think something crashed, the details are obscure at best and the only person we have left that I think is a smoking gun is Jesse Marcel Jr. his story seems pretty solid to me.

MJ? very likely to have truths mixed in there. So many people has pissed in this pool as well we'll never know.

Does anyone have a list of other crashes that have happened more recently,,,let's say within the last 20 to 30 years? Roswell seems to be the only point of reference that everyone seems to gather to. Other shit has happened right? Roswell is a Cold case.

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[Tommy Allison]

I just want Roswell, and all the snake oil salespeople to fucking die.

It never happened as far as I'm concerned, and it just needs to go away. People who tout it as being a legitimate event, are full of shit.

People keep upping the ante with so called new discoveries, when in fact they're just bullshitting everyone to make a buck.

When you have Kal Korff on a show about Roswell and Area 51, on the History and Discovery Channels, and they STILL tout him as credible, you know it's ALL bullshit.

It's why I can't stand UFO hunters, because it is exactly that. Bullshit. I didn't know Danny Partridge was connected to Bill Birnes. Perhaps he needs to get back to his multi-colored bus instead of wasting time hanging out with Bill.

Seriously, the show is laughable, and so is the entire Roswell phenomena.

I am a Roswell Denier. It never happened.

[Irishseekers]

Originally Posted by Tommy Allison

I just want Roswell, and all the snake oil salespeople to fucking die.

It never happened as far as I'm concerned, and it just needs to go away. People who tout it as being a legitimate event, are full of shit.

People keep upping the ante with so called new discoveries, when in fact they're just bullshitting everyone to make a buck.

When you have Kal Korff on a show about Roswell and Area 51, on the History and Discovery Channels, and they STILL tout him as credible, you know it's ALL bullshit.

It's why I can't stand UFO hunters, because it is exactly that. Bullshit. I didn't know Danny Partridge was connected to Bill Birnes. Perhaps he needs to get back to his multi-colored bus instead of wasting time hanging out with Bill.

Seriously, the show is laughable, and so is the entire Roswell phenomena.

I am a Roswell Denier. It never happened.

Ok not to pick on you tommy. Can i ask you question...

You dont think Roswell happened but how can they confuse a flying saucer with a weather balloon? The press release and the telephone wire transcripts from 1947 backs up the Roswell case to a certain degree.

What do you think was the reason to release such a press release?

[Tommy Allison]

I don't think Roswell was an alien ship at all. In fact, I'm convinced that if anything it was an ME-262. The public had no idea in 1947 that we'd brought over tons of their technology and their scientists under Operation Paperclip.

The people of this country would have shit a brick had they found out it was German technology flying overhead, as we had just finished one hell of a war.

Kenneth Arnold, just prior to the event saw these craft that were crescent shaped. Hell, the drawing looks so close to a 262 it's not even funny.

The weather balloon, and the UFO story are covers for the fact that we had recovered German technology we were testing out. How would you feel to know that the people whom you'd beaten in the war had superior technology and the potential to annihilate your country? It would have created a lot of problems.

I don't believe any of it anymore, because none of the witnesses are reliable, or are deceased. Too much money has been made off of it, and there is nothing that can be corroborated at all. It's time to move on, and hope that something in the future DOES fall from the sky that can be recovered before the government gets their hands on it.

[Irishseekers]

Originally Posted by Tommy Allison

I don't think Roswell was an alien ship at all. In fact, I'm convinced that if anything it was an ME-262. The public had no idea in 1947 that we'd brought over tons of their technology and their scientists under Operation Paperclip.

The people of this country would have shit a brick had they found out it was German technology flying overhead, as we had just finished one hell of a war.

Kenneth Arnold, just prior to the event saw these craft that were crescent shaped. Hell, the drawing looks so close to a 262 it's not even funny.

The weather balloon, and the UFO story are covers for the fact that we had recovered German technology we were testing out. How would you feel to know that the people whom you'd beaten in the war had superior technology and the potential to annihilate your country? It would have created a lot of problems.

I don't believe any of it anymore, because none of the witnesses are reliable, or are deceased. Too much money has been made off of it, and there is nothing that can be corroborated at all. It's time to move on, and hope that something in the future DOES fall from the sky that can be recovered before the government gets their hands on it.

Ya tommy you could be very much right, but still doesnt explain why they released the press release of a captured flying disc.

If it was a test flight of German technology that opens other questions were did the plane come from, surely not the base? and also if this is true we must, not entirely sure consider it to be a plane probably jet engined considering the time period.

But tommy, Jesse marcel jr describes the material as looking very different infact he has gained over sixty years in his life since the event but never in those sixty years has he seen something similar to that material he witnessed in 1947.

He also witnessed with his dad strange geometric shapes or letters on the material.Mathematic symbols that is indeed strange.

Ya tommy i agree this case has been hijacked by frauds and people out to make a quick buck.

[Tommy Allison]

I think there are layers of deceit involved in this. Jesse Marcel Jr.'s memories are funny, because he, like this other guy went right for a sheet of acetate and said that it was identical to the "memory" metal that they spoke of.

What bothers me, is the fact that acetate and celluloid had been around well before World War II. In fact there were many different colors and blends of acetate.

There are so many things wrong with this case, and the fact that nothing has been consistent tells me that all of it is a hoax put on by the powers that be, with your tax dollars. A hoax perpetrated against the duped and braindead masses that have consistently done what their government told them to do, instead of putting the government in their place.

That's the problem with the whole case, is that the people of this country gave up their fundamental right to self governance, when they stopped being citizens, and started being cowed serfs. If your government frightens you, you're not a citizen, you're a slave.

[Gareth]

I hardly think its a hoax. It might not be what we think it was, but a hoax? C'mon... it was laying dormant for twenty odd years until Friedman started investigating.

[Irishseekers]

Roswell will always remain a mystery hopefully not but it looks like it will so.So many theorys no answers.
But Roswell is only one case of many, ufos is a world wide phenomen that has existed through the ages it does not end with the Roswell case.