The Nazi UFO Conspiracy.

[Tommy Allison]

I only wish I was kidding about this.

The Discovery Channel tomorrow night has a show dedicated to the Nazi UFO Conspiracy. Now this is going to be one of the more interesting videos because at least it will be something new that we haven't seen before, and will likely be worth at least a few chuckles.

Any time I see titles like this, I think to myself, it's one step of way from the hollow earth, and Hitler lives in a secret arctic base.

[Hoffmeister]

I think there's been a couple of these already, but i'm at work so i cant post the links. One of them was a british channel 5 show that triumphantly declares it has discovered all the answers to the UFO phenomenon. Apparently the Nazi's developed flying saucer technology and then the US nicked it after the war and have kept it secret from us.
Meanwhile, the UFO theories were being perpetuated by the US Government so as to hide the airforcees other blackprojects.
And the ringleader of this disinformation.......?
Non other than Donald Keyhoe!

Channel 5 isnt known for its intelligent viewing, but this one took the biscuit..

[ddd999]

In the beginning of this documentary there's stuff about secret Nazi antigravity experiments facility ( I think it was in Poland), check it out:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...05691449249469

[dhatz]

This Nazi-UFO stuff, is relatively popular in my country, Greece. It is usually presented in conjunction with "secret societies" (the most well-known being the "EL"), who somehow acquired the technology from Nazis and which work behind the scenes to advance "greek values" etc.

It would be funny, if certain people weren't taking it seriously (I would say the same social groups which have been disenfranchised by the global economic policies of recent years and are looking for "saviors" -- paralleling the groups which in US "cling to their guns and religion").

I wonder if there are other countries where this "secret society" kind of spin to UFO phenomenon has gained any popularity. I have only found some home-made "documentaries" in Youtube, in German language. And ofcourse the documentaries from british journalist Nick Cook (which IMHO are very misleading)

[digigeek]

Originally Posted by Tommy Allison

I only wish I was kidding about this.

The Discovery Channel tomorrow night has a show dedicated to the Nazi UFO Conspiracy. Now this is going to be one of the more interesting videos because at least it will be something new that we haven't seen before, and will likely be worth at least a few chuckles.

Any time I see titles like this, I think to myself, it's one step of way from the hollow earth, and Hitler lives in a secret arctic base.

I don't see anything particularly odd about being interested in and investigating this issue. There's more interesting information available about this topic than MANY MANY others that are commonly brought up in forums of this kind.

I find some of the old photos, the writings, and blueprints of VRIL type craft fairly compelling. My Father, who was bombardier in a B-17 flying out of England on missions to Germany during WWII says the saw strange German craft several times, especially toward the end of the war.

[dhatz]

Well, to make a long story short, the main reason the scientific establishment rejects UFOs is because the reported behaviour defies our Physics theories (e.g. reactionless drive issues).

Any theory proposing a "secret project" origin of ALL UFO sightings back to 1940s has to somehow take care of the fact that UFO Physics still elude the public scientific research at a fundamental level (or that the CERNs and Fermi-labs of the world are part of a conspiracy to suppress this info)

E.g. for nuclear energy, the theory was well established but still it took decades and huge investments during war-time to take it from a "laboratory curiosity" to application.

[digigeek]

Originally Posted by dhatz

Well, to make a long story short, the main reason the scientific establishment rejects UFOs is because the reported behaviour defies our Physics theories (e.g. reactionless drive issues).

Any theory proposing a "secret project" origin of ALL UFO sightings back to 1940s has to somehow take care of the fact that UFO Physics still elude the public scientific research at a fundamental level (or that the CERNs and Fermi-labs of the world are part of a conspiracy to suppress this info)

E.g. for nuclear energy, the theory was well established but still it took decades and huge investments during war-time to take it from a "laboratory curiosity" to application.

Please don't make such an argument. It is so arrogant. Why on Earth would you want to suggest that:

1) We fully understand the physics of the universe around us (arrogant and medieval).

2) If only a select few understand things that the general scientific community does not that they could not possibly keep that secret. Why would CERN, in general, have to know a damned thing?

If the knowledge comes from a source not of this solar system then it would easily satisfy all criteria.

Even if scientists in Germany figured out some of this on their own, that does not in any way force one to think that the rest of the world would know anything about it. The military and covert groups of the world keep secrets for decades and decades with the greatest of ease.

If you see something unexplained in the sky, what will you think? Will you immediately rationalize it because you don't have a current reference for what it seems to be? Or will you simply accept it for what it looks and acts like and go from there?

Look, a flying pig, right there.

Pigs don't fly.

Well, not usually, but there's one right there flying. We both see it.

Can't be. They don't fly. Everyone knows that.

Look, I know it is UNUSUAL, even highly so, but THERE IT IS. Now, let's figure out how THAT one is able to fly.

[Hoffmeister]

I dont neccesarily think its arrogant to say that the Nazi's weren't and aren't responsible for all the UFO reports. If they really did discover some great way of cruising around in discs, we'd be using it instead of planes.

[dhatz]

Just to make my position clear, I don't share the opinion of the scientific establishment that UFOs either don't exist or are some form of still unknown physical phenomenon.

But the "secret project" answer to UFOs simply doesn't fit the data IMHO, such as the global nature of the UFO phenomenon.

Btw, I don't discount the possibility that Nazi Germany scientists work on "The Bell" might have been on to something related to antigravity. On the other hand, we have a complete lack of palpable evidence. And btw I've read the supposed "blueprints" for Haunebu / Vril etc (I speak German) and I would find it easier to believe the MJ12 SOM101 material (which i don't) rather than that stuff ...

[Tommy Allison]

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