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A very curious thing has happened in my mind lately while listening to your last couple of podcasts. I've mentioned before that I believed Streiber except for the occasions where he goes overboard and acts like he is some kind of a prophet. I've had my doubts about the variety of experiences he has had, but between Jeff Ritzman, David and Brad Steiger, ya'll are seeming to corroborate alot of the strangeness he encounters. I don't know if you realize it but your dimensional and inner earth theories are concepts he considers too as being likely. It's just interesting to me, it's too bad he would probably be too concerned with being mocked to come on your show, because a conversation between jeff, david and whitley would be incredibly interesting.
I'm always looking for the truth just as you guys are, I approach everything fairly skeptically. It's hard to believe Streiber because of his history as a horror writer, but it is interesting to hear virtually identical stories on a program that is as skeptically inclined as yalls. Tell Me, if you don't mind, what do you think about this comparison? I've heard Jeff mention Streiber in a somewhat positive light, but what about Gene and David? |
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Btw, David, much kudos for giving up some of the strangeness in your closet. I actually think it makes your rants more compelling and it seems like a heck of a risk to me. Anybody here who publicly entertains the notion that ufo's and particularly abductions etc. could be real knows how quickly attitudes change around you once you profess more than a mere curiosity about the subject.
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I've noticed similarities between Jeff and Whitley's reported events. An example is the seeming quantum leaps they've encountered in their car. Whitley was with a boy at the time, and I've been curious about what the kid (now an adult probably) has to say. No luck yet.
Strieber and Jeff would make an interesting show.
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Just wanted to make a really brief reply, David and I are at the X Conference and just got back up to the room after Rich Dolan's really great presentation. He's a really nice guy and a fantastic speaker who cuts through the otherwise high noise of the subject.
I'd definitely be into a Paracast with Whitley. We met many years ago in Gulf Breeze, and he and I used to exchange emails quite a bit back when I was hosting at Sightings and Parascope. I related to some of his experiences, however he's gotten rather away from alot of that in years past, and has dare I say, gotten "fringe-ish". I dont know that I put alot of stock in some of what he's had to say lately, but I think his core experiences (ala Communion) were very interesting (as well as his perception of them). ~Jeff |
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I often drop by Strieber's site to check out his journal and news updates. My favorite article blurb on his home page has to be "Whitley tells us what to think about the drones." Rather revealing. Strieber loves nothing better than telling people what to think about everything under the sun, especially subjects far beyond his grasp. I guess the man has become my personal Cato.; everything he says annoys me beyond endurance.
I stopped listening to his podcast some time ago, soon after he turned Unknown Country over to that refugee from a Lewis Carroll fantasy, William Henry. But this week, after reading Strieber's description of the show as a head to head blowout, I downloaded the program and was shocked by the hateful, venomous, spiteful, lunatic personal attack he launched against a guest who had the unmitigated gall to disagree with this era's Madam Blavatsky. The fact that the man being interviewed is as big a new age poseur as Strieber didn't earn him any mercy, which only goes to prove that there is no honor among self deluded, fear mongering nut cases. ( And I'm not being rude here, believe me. If I wrote what I really think of Strieber, the moderator would have to delete the post, then wash his monitor screen with boric acid. ) |
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An interesting piece of trivia about Whitley, he's been involved in a group associated with GI Gurdjieff for over a decade. That's actually what prompted me to write to him, because I was also involved in such a group many years ago and wanted to confirm whether he had been involved or not. I think a round-table type of discussion would be great.
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Actually, I think Whitley's been all over the place because his experiences are so darned odd. Seems to me he has formed opinions of a sort, but eventually he tosses them out when some other explanation fits a bit better. I don't remember his being adamant in his judgments, at least for very long.
But maybe I'm just recalling his extreme emotional reactions. I can't say how I'd react to the situations he's found himself in, but his emotions do seem extreme to me. It's as though there's panic just under his surface. Then I hear him tell about traveling to other worlds, enjoying what he finds, and I think he's just nuts. That's the thing about him, I can't pin him down when it comes to the wonderfully weird stuff. He's all over the place all the time, but when he writes, I get that. Only then can he focus, imo. Then I'm hooked. Gotta agree about William Henry though. I think he's a better interviewer than Whit, but he always, always, always has to promote his theories too. At least he can handle a guest's disagreement. Whitley makes a good interview, not a good interviewer. |
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Streiber is a nutjob. Up til the time he wrote communion, he was a mediocre author.
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DFWMike,
Thanks for the kind and supportive words, it means a lot to me. I felt uncomfortable revealing some of the details that came out during the Brad Steiger segment, and am thankful that I haven't been attacked outright (though if you look at the latest comment someone posted on the Podcast Alley site, well, I have my enemies out there...) I'll be meeting Whitley Strieber late next week at an event being hosted by Jeremy Vaeni in NYC, hopefully I can convince him to come on the show, I think a discussion with Jeff, Gene & myself would be really interesting.
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