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Old 01-23-2008, 08:01 PM
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Talking Military Offers Explanation For Texas UFO Reports

http://www.nbc5i.com/news/15120390/detail.html
"an error was made regarding the reported training activity of military aircraft" and that "10 F-16s from the 457th Fighter Squadron were performing training operations in the Brownwood Military Operating Area."

Originally they said that they did not have any aircraft out that night, and that there were no commercial jets in the area either. They changed their story!

This could be a cover-up of a UFO. Or the Military really may have had a top secret new aircraft test going on that they were hesitant to own up to until there was so much buzz about it. When they were first asked they figured 'it's a small town, just deny it'. But when the media wouldn't leave it alone and it went international, they figured 10 fighter jets is admitting they had something there, but not letting out what it was.

But overall it would have been better if they had not stated this, because then there is still no other possible explanation.

Would the military not have known that it had 10 fighters out that night? Would residents all over the area not have heard 10 fighter jets in the quiet country!? Do fighters look a mile long and hover?

UPDATE:

This is a great video discussing the military explanation, and some new video supposedly of it: http://cbs11tv.com/local/stephenville.ufo.photos.2.636658.html

Fox News seems to doubt the military explanation, here's a clip from this morning:
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"They knew they were eventually going to have to tell the truth," Cherry said. "They concocted a ridiculous cover story in the beginning, but now they are coming closer to the truth with another cover story."

Several of the approximately 50 witnesses said they saw fighter jets trying -- and failing miserably -- to catch up to the strange aircraft.

Some said the unidentified flying object was up to a mile long and hundreds of yards high. Others described seeing two to eight lights that flew in formation, changed color and shined with an intensity greater than a welding flame.

One witness who reported seeing military jets chasing a UFO was Steve Allen, a pilot and owner of a freight company in Glen Rose.

"We're on the money 100 percent," Allen said after learning of the military's statement. "Something is going on, and we know about it. It's time for the government to start talking about it."
What's funny is that the military expects us to believe that what 50 witnesses actually saw was just a couple of fighter jets going by, and that they dreamed up that they were chasing a huge unknown object.
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Old 01-23-2008, 08:26 PM
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Default RE: Military Offers Explanation For Texas UFO Reports

Same old story...
The Air Force steps up and explains the sightings as flares or F-16 flying in formation.
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Old 01-23-2008, 08:41 PM
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Default RE: Military Offers Explanation For Texas UFO Reports

Yes, it's a conundrum.

If the descriptions are accurate, 10 F-16's are not a viable solution.

If the descriptions are inaccurate, 10 F-16's are a viable solution.

Everybody gets to believe what they want to believe.
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Old 01-23-2008, 09:00 PM
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Default RE: Military Offers Explanation For Texas UFO Reports

Yeah, channel 11 just got into the BS business too. Check out the intense copy and paste job they did on this wonderful peice of literature.

http://cbs11tv.com/local/ufo.texas.stephenville.2.636217.html

You knew it had to happen at some point. If you ask me, the excuse genie dialed this one in. This isn't even a good attempt at a coverup.

Apparently, the entire Stephenville area is populated with a bunch of morons. Or so we are expected to believe.

So, lets compare the observed objects these backwater idiots saw with the real F16! It'll be fun!

Object estimated length= 1 mile
F-16's length= 49ft 5in
Lets assume that there is a 2 plane lenght in between each plane and that they were all in a line. thats 1,474 feet. That is 3,806 feet short of a mile. That is what I call a significant difference. Man these folks are stupid!

Sound of object: None. In fact all of the reports were characterized by the complete absence of sound.
Sound of an F-16: The F-16 comes with 2 engine possibilities.
1 - Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-220 afterburning turbofan
a - 14,590 pounds of force for normal operations
b - 23,770 pounds of force in afterburner
2 - General Electric F110-GE-100 afterburning turbofan
a - 17,155 pounds of force for normal operations
b - 28,985 pounds of force in afterburner

Admitedly, I couldn't find a decible range for these engines, but I feel pretty safe in saying that 10 of them would be in the "louder than silent" catagory. They are either all deaf or the cows were mooing too load for them to hear the jets!

I dont buy the sudden appearence of 10 F-16's as a viable explaination. I can't believe that it took them 12 days to find a flight of 10 jet fighters. It's just not a plausable explaination in my opinion.
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Default RE: Military Offers Explanation For Texas UFO Reports

Check out the emails Linda Howe has posted to her site. (Yeah, I know, it's her, but a couple of the emails are interesting.

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1379&category=Environment

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On Tuesday January 1, 2008, above Fort Worth, about 09:00 AM to 12:00 PM, we had some crazy flyovers of F-18s, B1s, B2s, F-22s, and the new raptor jet. Flying very much like a search pattern for something on the ground or in the air. Just East of I-35W and North to South of I-20/820 East. It got my attention while I was on the computer checking on my emails for the day, when these jets flew so close that I could look up and see the outline of the wheel wells, about 700 feet off the ground. Next door neighbor also noticed the flight pattern and came out to talk about what might be going on at this time. Being a security officer at one time in my life came in handy about distance and type of equipment, whatever it might be!
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If the witness was sure of I.D. of jet fighters being F-16 or F-15, they are Air Force fighters and mostly didn't come from Navy air base - unless it was secret special Air Force temporary deploy to Naval air base to observe UFOs. If Air Force F-16 didn't come from Navy air base, this mean government has been tracking and chasing UFOs from a far distant base. Navy fighters are F-18 and F-14. This could aid in tracking the base these fighters came from. I believe it is a top secret air unit to chase and observe UFOs, not regular Air Force or Navy, which both can say they have no planes in the air.
So was the Navy tracking something too? Or was the Navy involved in training exercises with the Air Force? Surely, that isn't unheard of. Still, it sounds to me like they called out the cavalry for something. All the planes might have been a "dodge" to cover something out of this world, or very much of this world. Could have been in hot pursuit too.
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Default RE: Military Offers Explanation For Texas UFO Reports

There's actually a good interview of one of the Texas UFO witnesses by Linda Moulton Howe on the recent Dreamland. It's at the beginning of the episode and if you keep listening you'll catch Streiber deriding MUFON for calling out the drones as CGI hoaxes.

-todd.
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Default RE: Military Offers Explanation For Texas UFO Reports

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Check out the emails Linda Howe has posted to her site. (Yeah, I know, it's her, but a couple of the emails are interesting.

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1379&category=Environment

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Quote:
On Tuesday January 1, 2008, above Fort Worth, about 09:00 AM to 12:00 PM, we had some crazy flyovers of F-18s, B1s, B2s, F-22s, and the new raptor jet. Flying very much like a search pattern for something on the ground or in the air. Just East of I-35W and North to South of I-20/820 East. It got my attention while I was on the computer checking on my emails for the day, when these jets flew so close that I could look up and see the outline of the wheel wells, about 700 feet off the ground. Next door neighbor also noticed the flight pattern and came out to talk about what might be going on at this time. Being a security officer at one time in my life came in handy about distance and type of equipment, whatever it might be!
The B2 and B1 are not the aircraft the military would send to intercept an unknown. Or anything else for that matter. They are bombers, and useless for anything else.

The B2 is also very slow.

I'll have to give this email a low-level of believability. Now, on the other hand if there was an air show in the area....
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Default RE: Military Offers Explanation For Texas UFO Reports

Thanks, Fitz. I know zilch about the planes mentioned. It really does sound like an air show ... which probably didn't take place at all. Except the raptor part. Are those displayed in air shows? I've seen film, but never heard my girlfriend mention them at air shows. Just curious.
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Thanks, Fitz. I know zilch about the planes mentioned. It really does sound like an air show ... which probably didn't take place at all. Except the raptor part. Are those displayed in air shows?
Yes, I've seen "F-22's" at air shows. I have that in quotes because I'm not sure it was in an operational configuration, I mean the one I saw may have been a late prototype or used specifically for display.

I believe only about 100 of these have actually been deployed operationally; it shouldn't be too hard to see if any are based in Texas.
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Thanks, Fitz. I know zilch about the planes mentioned. It really does sound like an air show ... which probably didn't take place at all. Except the raptor part. Are those displayed in air shows?
Yes, I've seen "F-22's" at air shows. I have that in quotes because I'm not sure it was in an operational configuration, I mean the one I saw may have been a late prototype or used specifically for display.

I believe only about 100 of these have actually been deployed operationally; it shouldn't be too hard to see if any are based in Texas.

325th Fighter Wing
43d Fighter Squadron - The only USAF squadron to operate F-22As at Tyndall AFB, Florida. The 43d was re-established at Tyndall in 2002, and, in 2003, with a corps of 15 Raptor Instructor Pilots, began training student Raptor pilots. The 43d continues to produce new Raptor pilots and serves as the focal point for all F-22 training of pilots and maintainers.

Air Combat Command
1st Fighter Wing Langley Air Force Base, Virginia.
27th Fighter Squadron - The first deployable F-22 unit in December 2005 after receiving sufficient numbers of trained Raptor pilots and flew the first F-22A operational mission (January 2006 in support of Operation Noble Eagle). They deployed to Kadena Air Base with a complement of 250 Airmen and 12 F-22s.[56]

94th Fighter Squadron - Full complement as of 19 January 2007.[56]
53d Wing Eglin Air Force Base, Florida.
422d Test and Evaluation Squadron - The "Green Bats" are responsible for operational testing, tactics development and evaluation for the F-22.

Air Force Material Command
412th Flight Test Squadron - Conducts developmental tests of F-22 enhancements and modernization.
Pacific Air Forces

3d Wing Elmendorf Air Force Base, Alaska.
90th Fighter Squadron - Conversion from F-15Es to F-22s begun; first F-22A arrived 8 August 2007.[57][58]
525th Fighter Squadron - Not activated yet.
302d Fighter Squadron - An Air Force Reserve Command squadron that will convert from F-16s at Luke Air Force Base and move to Elmendorf AFB.

Air National Guard
192nd Fighter Wing - Virginia Air National Guard. Transitioned from F-16s based in Richmond International Airport, Richmond, VA to F-22s based at Langley AFB, Virginia.

Future bases and units will include:
199th Fighter Squadron, Hickam AFB, Hawaii.
531st Fighter Squadron, Hickam AFB, Hawaii.
49th Fighter Wing, Holloman AFB, New Mexico.
104th Fighter Wing, Barnes Municipal Airport, Massachusetts (Talked about as happening to the 102nd Fighter Wing while it was considered for being dissolved, F-15's later moved to the 104th. Should happen around 2009.

According to wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-22#Operators

Also, Lockheed Martin Aeronautics is based out of Fort Worth Texas. They designed and built the F-22.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_Aeronautics
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