Joseph Farrell on Roswell and Corso

[schticknz]

Originally Posted by gilbavel

Who else??

Can I get a witness? Or at least a second?

Who will second the motion?

Schtick throws up hand (with arm attached of course ) ... ME ME ME ME ... I shall second and third and fourth and fifth and sixth and seventh ... and ninehundredandeightyfourth it. Waits for hand with arm attached to fall to ground ... picks up arm with hand attached ... tries to reattach arm ... fails ... bugger

Dr Farrell is the best guest not to have appeared on the Paracast so far (imho) apart from Greg Bishop, and maybe Walter Bosley (although ... i have a straange feeling about him that is not going away at the moment ) ... or Chris O'Brian.

[schticknz]

Originally Posted by mike

lol he was very polite about it, but i could "hear" that in his voice

he talks about Nazi experiments, but to my mind doesnt describe the worst examples.
Twins many children ,were singled out at the camps and taken to a seperate area. life was better in this area ,better food better everything, optimum health was a needed factor in what happens next. the individual sets get seperated and one is given lethal doses of the toxin of the day, sometimes poison sometimes disease. at the moment when the infected patient dies, the healthy twin got wheeled in and "put down", side by side autopsys were then performed for comparative data.

which is why i find the idea that the Nazi's decided that the best way to win, was to use this tech and run away to fight again another day, in perhaps another way.

yet at the same time, the theory dovetails nicely with some of evidence
occams razor likes the nazi bell theory from my pov, but the idea is not one i like

What Dr Farrell says of the Nazis does seems to make sense. He does speculate a lot it seems but its speculation built on a firm founding of research. He doesn't get into the genetic experiments much and in the interviews on The Byte Show, he makes this clear to the host time and time again. So its nice to see someone that doesn't speculate about things he has not studied in some depth.

And what he says about what crashed at Roswell possibly being a Nazi device, and then bringing the German scientists into the US (Operation Paperclip) ... maybe to bring some insight into the crashed aircraft makes sense too. Its a totally different spin on what we know regarding the Roswell crash ... but ... it makes a sort of sense.

[Ally]

I just listened tot he first interview on the Byte show and I am hooked. He seems very interesting. I had heard of him but never knew what he was about. I would love to hear him on this show.

[More Danny Byrd]

On C2C, Farrell disqualified himself by announcing his very high regard for Hoagland and his absolutely bogus Interdimensional Physics, which is merely numerology based on finding 19.5 everywhere.

[schticknz]

Originally Posted by More Danny Byrd

On C2C, Farrell disqualified himself by announcing his very high regard for Hoagland and his absolutely bogus Interdimensional Physics, which is merely numerology based on finding 19.5 everywhere.

I agree that Hoagland is somewhat a crank ... and I can't say why Farrell has a respect for Hoagland but Farrell is one of the few (if the only one) that I think actually has some academic credentials (I mean he IS an ACTUAL doctor with a doctorate in Patristics from the University of Oxford which I think means more than a little), and is incredibly thoughtful whereas some other people just say things without backing them up.

In an interview recently he talked about another researcher who never makes footnotes and never puts references in his work. I have a feeling he was talking about Jim Marrs but could be wrong about that one.

I just have a gut feeling that Dr Farrell is on to something. Stupid really talking about ones gut feeling but it has served me well in the past: I've never listened to another Alex Jones program since my gut started playing up into the second week of listening to him .

Sooo ... I am giving Dr Farrell the benefit of the doubt since I think he has some very important information and may explain a chunk of the UFO phenomenon. I'm compartmentalising in this case. Strangely prescient don't you think

[Ally]

Schticknz,
WOW that's a weird name to spell!. Have you listened to all of the Byte show interviews?

[Irishseekers]

Originally Posted by schticknz

What Dr Farrell says of the Nazis does seems to make sense. He does speculate a lot it seems but its speculation built on a firm founding of research. He doesn't get into the genetic experiments much and in the interviews on The Byte Show, he makes this clear to the host time and time again. So its nice to see someone that doesn't speculate about things he has not studied in some depth.

And what he says about what crashed at Roswell possibly being a Nazi device, and then bringing the German scientists into the US (Operation Paperclip) ... maybe to bring some insight into the crashed aircraft makes sense too. Its a totally different spin on what we know regarding the Roswell crash ... but ... it makes a sort of sense.

That theory is possible, indeed i think it may be even probable that Nazi scientists were working with materials that may be still be secret even to this day?I believe a leaked document from the Allies just before the end of the war suggests that the Germans were working on some type of Antigravity device called the Bell, and that it was found or captured by the Allies somewhere in the Czech republic. I Believe all this materials were been worked on deep underground?

A theory if America had Ufo crashes? Is it beyond possibility crashes of ufos might have happened somewhere in Nazi occupied Europe?

But with Ufo's, History shows us this is not a man made object, at least not from our present time.

[Gareth]

In addition to anti-gravity, the bell was said to create a torsion field that actually bent space-time. I.E. They were working on a time machine!

[schticknz]

Originally Posted by Ally

Schticknz,
WOW that's a weird name to spell!. Have you listened to all of the Byte show interviews?

He he ... just call me 'schtick'. My screen name would just have been "schtick" but I've been in other places where that screen name, or ID, was already taken, and since I'm too lazy to think up another screen name, I just bung a "NZ" on the end since I live in New Zealand. Fascinating, eh???

Anyway back to your question. I've just finished listened to the third part in the series. This one goes into the "cosmic war" which he details in his "Cosmic War" book. This one is a weird one. He goes in to a lot of speculation about a war that went on in our solar system many millenia ago and about a planet that was destroyed causing the asteroid belt, and caused great upheaval in the general vicinty.

This stuff is not so convincing in my mind since he is interpreting ancient text such as the Sumerian texts which can be interpreted (probably) in any sense since they seem to be full of metaphor (or not depending on your point of view). Does that make sense??

He also goes into other strange realms when he talks about scalar physics, and the possibilty that interference patterns of two (or more?) sets of longitudinal (electromagnetic) waves can be used to cause effects in the local space-time like psychological affects on people.

So ... all very interesting ... but it may take a more careful and detailed reading of the books before I can really get any grasp of whether he may be leading us up a cul-de-sac, or he really is onto something.

At this point, I think his Nazi Bell books may be closer to the truth than his books about ancient technology and cosmic wars. But I'll have to read them properly first. Still ... its all very provocative and thought provoking and worth a listen (although expect have your mind boggled again and again at various times during the episode ).

[schticknz]

Originally Posted by Gareth

In addition to anti-gravity, the bell was said to create a torsion field that actually bent space-time. I.E. They were working on a time machine!

Yeah, the Bell was in fact an experiment with space-time, and although it wasn't purely designed to be a time-machine, its possible that had they continued with their experiments that a time-machine of sorts might have emerged.

I've got absolutely no grounds to say this except its my gut feeling that when you're playing around with such concepts as space-time, well you could end up almost anywhere ie "anti-gravity", invisibility, time-travel, or some sort of weapon of mass destruction.