Is Bill Birnes an Idiot?

[Aaron LeClair]

Originally Posted by CapnG

Really... you're gonna put Birnes on the same level as Peckman? As Greer? As Horn? Please. Bill maybe somewhat enthusiastic about the topic but at least he has the temerity to point out when something is unknown or merely theoretical. And he is, after all, a businessman. He's not trying to be sneaky about it like certain other shills...

The people who make these absolute pronouncements about the UFO enigma, those are the people doing real damage to the field.

Capn as usual expressed similar views as I hold. I don't see Birnes as a hero, nor a major villain. I wouldn't place him with Greer, Pecker, or Horn. But, knowing this field, he may grow into those shoes in time. Caution with Birnes is certainly reasonable. But that goes for everyone. Hope I sound more practical than paranoid.

[Mothra]

The Philadelphia Experiment,
When Bill talks about degaussing he was half right. Interviews with men on the ship verify that. HOWEVER, the ship didn't overheat and no one was killed. The ship was in the Yard with hundreds of people around. Its all folklore, its just a story.

[Tommy Allison]

Idiot is not a word I would use about Bill Birnes.

You have to be pretty smart to keep working in a field full of other jackals who are all after the same thing, Money.

I have yet to see anyone in this field with a TV show, books, magazines who do any of it for free, or to get to the truth.

What floors me, is the audacity that some of these people have to pretend that they, and only they are the true gatekeepers to the unknown truths.

I've been looking up at the sky since I was 3 years old. I've seen things that I cannot explain, and know exactly the same things as Bill Birnes, and every other so called expert in this field. Nothing.

Nobody knows the truth about this in this field. That's why it's such a great place to make a buck. You just have to be as credible, or more credible than the guy next to you, and come up with something even more imaginative.

[Aaron LeClair]

Originally Posted by Tommy Allison

Idiot is not a word I would use about Bill Birnes.

You have to be pretty smart to keep working in a field full of other jackals who are all after the same thing, Money.

I have yet to see anyone in this field with a TV show, books, magazines who do any of it for free, or to get to the truth.

What floors me, is the audacity that some of these people have to pretend that they, and only they are the true gatekeepers to the unknown truths.

I've been looking up at the sky since I was 3 years old. I've seen things that I cannot explain, and know exactly the same things as Bill Birnes, and every other so called expert in this field. Nothing.

Nobody knows the truth about this in this field. That's why it's such a great place to make a buck. You just have to be as credible, or more credible than the guy next to you, and come up with something even more imaginative.

I wouldn't say great, unless you can name some millionaires that made their money from this.

[111uminate]

Originally Posted by Tommy Allison

Nobody knows the truth about this in this field. That's why it's such a great place to make a buck. You just have to be as credible, or more credible than the guy next to you, and come up with something even more imaginative.

A very depressing state of affairs, and sadly, you just described the perfect recipe for what has become known as "muddying the waters". I think that would be the equation, and the result is disingenuous agendas and fabrications all in the name of money and fame. The field seems to generally attract two types of people; those wanting to use it as a platform for gain, and those who are genuinely curious. Well, three types of people I suppose. You can't forget about the cashews.

But, I also agree with you that I wouldn't label Bill an "idiot" either. Regardless of my disagreements with his work and beliefs, he's not the kind of guy I would refer to in a condescending way. He's still bringing the subject to a somewhat mainstream audience, so that has to count for something.

[Gareth]

lol this thread is months old. I didnt even realise.

[pixelsmith]

after watching the latest ufo hunter show... i would say everyone one the team is an idiot. they go out in the middle of a field and look at a sink hole complete with churning water and wonder if it is an impact crater... i am no doctor or scientist but even i could tell it was no impact crater. then they get a kid who claims he saw a tower shaped object with lights on each corner with a tiled surface, and to prove it he has video of it. then they are amazed at his video of a single multi colored light and compare it to a car's headlights, which they do not notice also display multi colored lights on video.

even more bizarre is no one notices that birnes looks like a small grey.

[dad2059]

...even more bizarre is no one notices that birnes looks like a small grey.

I wonder if that's subliminal or intentional?

[macavity]

Originally Posted by pixelsmith

after watching the latest ufo hunter show... i would say everyone one the team is an idiot.

Yep. Anyone concerned about the quality of the second series can rest easy, it's still shit.

Originally Posted by pixelsmith

even more bizarre is no one notices that birnes looks like a small grey.

He's always reminded me of Jim Bowen (probably only a name UK readers will recognise). Interestingly, they both have links to things beginning with "BULL...."

[Irishseekers]

Bill is far from an idiot, it just he has cuckoo clock for a brain? He is over the top on many issues, he needs to tune down a little, less volume. He has a good engine, but it puts far too much petrol into it,
Dont get me started with engines, Corso son is magical according to Bill, he was almost giveing the impression in the interview that somehow since he was a relative of Corso, that somehow the son was guided by something? did anyone else notice? I found it funny, but that is serious problem all jokes aside, and i think you undertand what i am saying?