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Old 07-14-2008, 06:05 AM
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Default Re: Is Bill Birnes an Idiot?

Part of being able to get funding for a show is the sell. I think he's a good salesman even though I find the show disappointing more often than not.

Being on Larry King is free advertisement. He'd be nuts to miss an opportunity to increase his audience. He's selling that artifact for all it's worth. In that respect, good job.
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Old 07-14-2008, 02:38 PM
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I think Poi's right. He needs to increase his audience and that means sometimes he has to do or say things that are, well, less than truly credible.

And I know I've said this before, but I like his personality. He's the grandpa I sort of wish I had! I'd adore having a lunch with him.
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:26 PM
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He didn't say they have alien artifacts. he said the dude who has them claims they are alien artifacts and they're testing them to find out.
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Old 07-15-2008, 06:25 AM
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I think Bill Birnes did a really good job of not blinking a lot considering he looks like he has some kind of nervous tick when you watch the show... an excellent job, actually.

And, for the most part, he came across as credible. Also, he was directly asked a question about alien artifacts... on talk shows, usually that means a guest wants to discuss it... so, maybe he really has something. I don't think somebody of his stature (read: with that much to lose) would just dangle that out there by itself for the fun of it.

But, I've been wrong before...
This is the same Birnes that declared that one of the guys they encountered on the UFO Hunters was, and I quote, "an alien human hybrid". Did that little diddy after knowing the guy for a few hours with no data or reason to back the statement up. Translation, he doesnt give 2 shits about his reputation. He is selling something. Susbscriptions and viewership. Thats it. He is a watered down version of the Greer/Meir/Peckman ilk. Basically, he is Clifford Stone with a mortgage and a car payment to make. He makes just as much a mockery of the field as any of these baffoons.
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Bob Salas and Bob Jacobs is on Larry King tonight too discuss ufo's seen over nuclear sites.
Now,if someone happens too see Bill Birnes around,please keep him tied up in your basement the next few hours...
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Bob Salas and Bob Jacobs is on Larry King tonight too discuss ufo's seen over nuclear sites.
Now,if someone happens too see Bill Birnes around,please keep him tied up in your basement the next few hours...
Know if it's a re-run or not?
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Old 07-18-2008, 09:50 PM
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Bob Salas and Bob Jacobs is on Larry King tonight too discuss ufo's seen over nuclear sites.
Now,if someone happens too see Bill Birnes around,please keep him tied up in your basement the next few hours...
Wow! Larry King is really getting into the UFO stuff isn't he? I wonder if it's the producers/CNN asking him to run this stuff for ratings or if he's truly interested. Whenever I see King handling UFO/Paranormal matters he always seems very unprepared and way out of the loop.
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He's the same no matter what topic he handles. Doing the show is "way out of the loop" for him.
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Default Re: Is Bill Birnes an Idiot?

I have never seen Jacobs on King before,so dont think it's a re-run...

I also recall James Fox talking about an upcoming episode timed too the MUFON conference in late July...not sure though.
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And, for the most part, he came across as credible. Also, he was directly asked a question about alien artifacts... on talk shows, usually that means a guest wants to discuss it... so, maybe he really has something. I don't think somebody of his stature (read: with that much to lose) would just dangle that out there by itself for the fun of it.
I think Birnes gets one chance to produce something really earth-shaking in the VERY near future; if he can't then he wins a trip to my "Greer File." And by definition, that's a one-way trip.

At the very least, his handling of the CNN appearance showed a total lack of nuance. Instead of leveraging a fairly intelligent and serious discussion to give his claims some gravitas, he comes screaming onto the set in a clown car and stands on the horn.

About as subtle as a big sack of truck-stop crank...
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