I need help on Drone & Issac story

[MarsAve]

I need search help -

Those familiar with the 'Big Basin' CA., Drone photos near Santa Cruz,CA- and later 'Issac' posting about the CARET technology - can someone help me find the original stories on the web. I particulary want to find the posting about the 1st photos - if I remember correctly - they were posted on C2C about a female photo-club leader who submitted photos from a Male club member- later picked up and published by Linda Moulton Howe and Earthfiles.com. earlier this year-and the continuing saga.(Which I highly suspect is phony)

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1292&category=Environment

I have photos( one attached by me) of where the photos were taken -I found the place..!- this puts a very bad light on the whole story and CARET - in my opinion. The person submitting the story of the Drone is now claiming the photos were taken in Big Basin State Park by a bicyclist group. I found the exact spot, and it is NOT in Big Basin State Park..far from it.

Should Linda Moulton Howe retract the whole story if she cannot prove the photos from the bicyclist were taken in Big Basin? I did send them the photos a week ago - but are probably too busy to respond- I haven't heard yet---I disclosed to her website, my true ID so she can verify everything I told her off-line, that I am not faking these - and offered the RAW photos from my digital for independant investigation. What do the readers of this forum think she should do? ( and yes, I know most people think the Drone is phony as I do - but what about Issac and CARET and LMH retracting the whole story and making it public..?)

if the attached photo shows- this photo is the ecaxt location the drone pic was taken, the link above has the original submitted photo to look at both, but I don't know how to put them side by side...but my picture, numbers the tree line and background - same place-tad farther back - but same view. There is more to this photo location I will reveal later -

MarsAve

[MarsAve]

here is the original photo I saved off C2C website earlier this year. I had not read another story about another sighting "in" Big Basin State Park - besides this one.....had anyone else..? Compare the photos.


MarsAve

[BrandonD]

Originally Posted by MarsAve

I need search help -

Those familiar with the 'Big Basin' CA., Drone photos near Santa Cruz,CA- and later 'Issac' posting about the CARET technology - can someone help me find the original stories on the web. I particulary want to find the posting about the 1st photos - if I remember correctly - they were posted on C2C about a female photo-club leader who submitted photos from a Male club member- later picked up and published by Linda Moulton Howe and Earthfiles.com. earlier this year-and the continuing saga.(Which I highly suspect is phony)

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1292&category=Environment

I have photos( one attached by me) of where the photos were taken -I found the place..!- this puts a very bad light on the whole story and CARET - in my opinion. The person submitting the story of the Drone is now claiming the photos were taken in Big Basin State Park by a bicyclist group. I found the exact spot, and it is NOT in Big Basin State Park..far from it.

Should Linda Moulton Howe retract the whole story if she cannot prove the photos from the bicyclist were taken in Big Basin? I did send them the photos a week ago - but are probably too busy to respond- I haven't heard yet---I disclosed to her website, my true ID so she can verify everything I told her off-line, that I am not faking these - and offered the RAW photos from my digital for independant investigation. What do the readers of this forum think she should do? ( and yes, I know most people think the Drone is phony as I do - but what about Issac and CARET and LMH retracting the whole story and making it public..?)

if the attached photo shows- this photo is the ecaxt location the drone pic was taken, the link above has the original submitted photo to look at both, but I don't know how to put them side by side...but my picture, numbers the tree line and background - same place-tad farther back - but same view. There is more to this photo location I will reveal later -

MarsAve

Very good eye MarsAve, the photos are definitely of the same place in my opinion.

[MarsAve]

Thanks Brandon -
when I first saw this months ago - I knew it wasn't Big Basin State Park area- not until after I saw the caption on the story by Earthfiles on the link attached did I feel I had to go check this out. I had an idea of where the photo was because of the ridge-line in the back ground - as I used to work in the area.

MarsAve

[David Biedny]

MarsAve,,

That's an excellent find, you're dead on, and we all appreciate your work at locating the spot. It's definitely the right location. Forget about LMH retracting anything, it would seem that she's happy not asking any tough questions. That CARET stuff is all fairly silly, though creative, but don't expect the person/people behind that to publicly reveal themselves. Pranksters will be pranksters.

dB

[MarsAve]

Thank you, db,

now for the rest of the story....I will attempt to attach a google map to show the location, where I took this photo and explain in simple terms why I am doing this. The red X is where I took the photo.

The story on the photos are this,
Location: about 2 miles west of Redwood Gulch Rd, on Hwy 9 in Saratoga,CA-on a hairpin turn, with no parking shoulder at all.

I used to work in this area and know the area well. When the photos 1st showed up on C2C tagged with 'Big Basin' and such - that was very close to home. (I live near San Jose,CA) I saw the photo I attached here, with the alleged Drone on C2C-and I saw the ridge-line in the background and knew it was probably Bogus - because of what the original stated captions were, and where the photos were taken--the dynamics of this area are quite severe - more later on that. The photo I took and posted 1st here - and this is a scoop for Black-Triangles.com - nobody else has them except LMH-website- the direction I took the photo, is on the east side of the road-above a steep canyon- it drops off about 200ft almost straight down-heavily wooded and brush -then levels a bit-and going forward towards the numbered tree line-(and all private property)- one doesn't hang around this area - the eastside, down hill -left curve is a dangerous spot-and I felt uneasy standing here taking the photos...I didn't stay long-for fear of getting hit(I parked downhill safely and walked 1/2 mile up here). Why a group of Bicyclist would stop here, to take photos and 'just happen' to see the Drone is very questionable- and on top of that to label it as 'Big Basin State Park' is another questonable statement- I really doubt they could be mistaken,,especially riding on Highway 9 - is that really a State Park...? NO! Why didn't they just say ''we took the picture on Hwy 9 near Redwood Gulch Rd-in Saratoga - what difference would it have made...?

The reason I write this, is to fight the fraud specialist( pranksters as db calls them) I don't like being lied too,,and I want people to know you may be caught! Isaac's letters now, to me, are all BS - very good, but all BS-even though I defended it on earlier posts- on other threads - I am really pissed at myself for not going up here when I 1st saw the photos. ---------My photos are real!

Ideas: Anybody have any ideas on how to post these photos to C2C and see if they will publish them..? (Any other websites? I'll send the original photos to 3 people(serious only) if you contact me for off line-) But C2C- takes all the other BS photos and post them like every solar flare and light source peeking into a camera lens is a bonafide UFO - I think we ought to come up with some good ideas on how to show them we are 'on to them'..!

Unless the person who took the photos(probably Issac) of the Big Basin Drone comes clean - with all of the photo data-then the whole story about the Drone, and Issac with CARET, is a Fraud,! Well written, but a Fraud- unless they come clean.

I sure would like to see the data and info given to LMH on the Big Basin drone....on the original story - I do remember her posting it as a photo club member taking the photo- then giving it to a female member who contacted C2C or posted them,,then LMH went with it. Then, on the link above to her site-- it's a different photo on the link- but still tagged as a 'Big Basin State Park' but a group of Bicyclist got the picture, according to the caption,,,,,The Capitola,CA Drone photo would be just as fake- the photo next to the telephone pole...Capitola is a heavly traveled tourist city year round - and that pole, Pacific Gas and Electric company is the provider in that area - in fact, they told me it is a Joint Pole- both High Voltage and telephone lines attached - these are usually on main streets for quick service to adjacent homes - yet these were the only photos.....nobody else saw anything?

Thanks for reading.
MarsAve

[Aaron LeClair]

All you do is send C2C an e-mail about it I think. Check their site for the e-mail address.

Let us know if they post your images.

[tommyball]

Great work, MarsAve.

I'd like to see the story retracted as well, but I think it's unlikely. C2C and Earthfiles both have contact adresses, but I think your research may unfortunately fall on deaf ears.

In fact, when this whole drone thing started, I emailed LMH and C2C to express my opinion that it was probably a fraud (I thought it looked like a 3D artist's portfolio piece) and I also mentioned what had been discussed on this show (Jeff Ritzmann commented that the "alien heiroglyphics" looked just like a Star Wars font). Of course, I received no response.

-todd.

[MarsAve]

Thanks to all for the ideas and insight - very much appreciated. You have given me a few ideas....when I try my angle - I'll post it here if it works.

Thanks

MarsAve

[dtruth]

Mar 30 2008 Report This!
THERE IS NOT JUST ONE drone, there are 14 drones that were all reported on from May to date. None of them have any source of propulsion. This Capitola story is only one of many. For a more in depth explanation on all drones
Google Alien Casebook - Home
and then go to the "Isaac and the Drones" board.

Just yesterday, the private investigators who are seeking the pole in the Capitola drone, found the photo locations for two other drones. These were in Saratoga California and the story and pictures are here. http://aliencasebook.blogspot.com

time will tell