Robert Hastings...

[Rocketsauce]

I've only listened to the first 40 mins, but I'm really enjoying this episode and hearing some new tidbits I haven't heard anywhere else.

I have never heard about a UFO actually initiating a launch sequence, that's pretty fucked up! Wow. I also enjoyed the corraboration on Blanchard regarding Roswell and how Hasting's contact on that was followed up by some intelligence dudes after their conversation, which is surprising since the guy seemed like he was pretty old.

The men in black need to chill out man! The effort to push UFO's to the fringe is a self perpetuating cycle that is on autopilot, there's no need to intimadate old witnesses. If a UFO over a major airport or ex-astranauts aren't gonna do much, then they are better off intimidating the drivers of the UFO's who are ultimately in control of this issue

[marduk]

I've always got the sense that there's a sense of theatre and playfulness about sightings and encounters. Almost a "trickster" quality. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickster). The thing is, we can knock down missles from freakin' orbit. They need to fly a saucer right up to the thing to down it? If they're so advanced, you'd think they could disable them from their easy chair in Zeta Reticuli. Sounds like they are putting on a show for us.

My feeling is that there are at least three basic alternatives:
1. Demonstrate superiority in a silverback-gorilla kind of way.
2. Testing their ability to down our stuff. Who knows? Maybe their defensive systems need trial runs just like ours do.
3. Maybe they're just f***ing with us to see how we respond. Kind of like kicking an anthill to see that ants swarm out.

[Hoffmeister]

I'm not sure you can use human reasoning for the reason behind these happenings if they did indeed really happen.
The Aliens, if thats what UFO's are don't seem to have followed any of things we would expect them to do using our human reasoning e.g. land, make themselves known, start killing us and taking over the planet etc.
The fact is there could be hundreds of reasons why they might do it, depending on how whacky the scenario really is.
Here are some examples:

1. The wanted to de-activate the nukes whilst they had something of importance in the area (perhaps a cloaked mothership) and it was simply a precautionary measure.
2. They wanted to give out the message of world peace.
3. They were just fooling around with the mechanisms to see how they worked.
4. It was an accidental side effect of the UFO being in the area.
5. The Aliens have a great sense of humour and were just having a laugh (why do we always presume aliens to be these numb beings who never laugh or joke around)

As to why they always seem to hang about nuclear depots... maybe the radiation effects either them or their method of travel in some possible way, be it negative or positive.

You know, its kind of a different subject, but why is it that since the dawn of UFO's, the first thing anyone has done after a UFO report is rush hastily out to the scene with the nearest geiger counter they could find?

Have we just assumed since the 50's that because at the time radioactive materials were one of the most powerful things we knew about, that the aliens would run their ships on it? Or am i just missing something?

[Hoffmeister]

I forgot to add, that if the aliens really did want to give us a warning, or stop us from nuking ourselves to kingdom come.... wouldnt there have been some more effective methods like maybe destroying the firing mechanisms altogether or something?

[Schuyler]

Hastings shines as a chronicler. We need people who are willing to get into the nitty gritty and document this stuff solidly. When Hastings sticks to his points and the subject matter which he has researched extensively, i.e.: The nuke/ufo connection, I think he really does an excellent job. I think he kind of lost his edge when he started talking about advanced physics, where he really is as much a layperson as most of us, and when he deviated from his own area of expertise and got into alien races. But you could really hear his excitement when he started talking about the UFO circling the missle--a great case with lots of detail. Good show. Thank you.

[CapnG]

I think you guys are being to hard on him for his physics knowledge. He never claims to be a physicist but that's not the point anyway. His argument is that despite the perception that this is sci-fi, there are real physicists who take this subject quite seriously and do alot of research into what could be a big part of the whole UFO/Alien enigma AND he names them and even interviews them.

[schticknz]

Originally Posted by CapnG

I think you guys are being to hard on him for his physics knowledge. He never claims to be a physicist but that's not the point anyway. His argument is that despite the perception that this is sci-fi, there are real physicists who take this subject quite seriously and do alot of research into what could be a big part of the whole UFO/Alien enigma AND he names them and even interviews them.

Totally agree with you CapnG (hey that rhymes ... schtick is easily pleased ). But I have to add to this that I think sometimes even so called scientists (physicists etc) don't know what they're talking about either it seems ...

Anyway, enjoyed this episode more than the last 2 or 3. Hastings seems to be one of the good guys ... and I'll reiterate that we need more like him. To actually spend how many years?? (35 or so??) digging around, sourcing information, interviewing people, putting in the hard yards, I don't think he can be criticised (although I know some people will since they're infantile and pedantic) on what he has added to the field of UFO research.

Oh, and if the pilots of the UFOs really thought that this planet was incredibly important re: genetic bank-wise, don't you think they would have stopped us from buggering up the planet by now??? They must see how much of the Amazon rain forest is disappearing each year, the stocks of fish in the North Sea that are being depleted etc ... surely???

Oh maybe it was the 5th, 6th and 7th dimensional creatures that live on the planet with us that David was talking about???

[Illuminati0n]

great guest, great show. really enjoyed it, heard some new things to. hastings seems really level headed and down to earth, something the field needs more of.

[Mothra]

I think its quite possible that they aren't even interested in us and that they are here for another reason all together. Its mans arrogance to just assume that they are here for us. They may consider us no different from a cow or caterpillar.

Maybe the nuke stuff was the equivalent of Messing with Sasquatch.

[mike]

while i agree that genes seem important to them, i dont see mans continued extinction of the species that surround us as anything aliens might consider negative.

the fossil records are replete with extinct species whos demise had nothing to do with man. its part of the process.
if the universe is teeming with life albiet over vast distances, then individual species will come and go, i think creativity would be more interesting a thing to study.
just as we are fascinated by animals that use tools, the use of tools will prob be the first thing we look for when we explore other planets.

The speed at which our tools have developed recently is also interesting,
i watched one of my favourite TV shows recently Time Team, and they were digging up a viking burial and building from about 1400 years ago. now we have the hubble space telescope in orbit.
if i were an alien species watching earth and not directly involved with tweaking the earth natives, id be wondering who is.