Nick Pope on The Paracast

[Live at the Witch Trials]

Originally Posted by Schuyler

So, from my point of view, after every show there is always a group of people who come on the threads WHINING that everyone does not bow down in worship to another spell-binding episode of enlightenment. Supplicating lap dogs salivating over the threads is just as disgusting as nonsensical, ill-founded criticism.

Now Now Be Nice !

[Live at the Witch Trials]

If you read my post correctley I said " Whinging" not "whining" so your dictionary definitions dont stand up as your clearly looking up the wrong word !

Also Whinging Is like ART when Its done for Its own sake Its repetetive and Dull.

[schticknz]

Originally Posted by Schuyler

The only guy I couldn't undeerstand was the one from Scotland!

Well ... I lived in Scotland for about 10 years (1983-1994 ... give or take a day or two), and by the end of it I was pretty good at understanding what Scottish people were saying at me

Anyway if you truly want to test out your Scottish-understandable-ness-ness powers try the Glaswegian accent. Bugger me its hard to get through without 'kissing' the Glaswegian in the process.

Ramble ... ramble ... ramble.

Soo ... before being pulled arm from arm and leg by vast quantities of Scottish people ... try this for a taste of the Glaswegian accent:

This is a clip of the great Rab C. Nesbitt (played by the great Gregor Fisher) ... a sort of Glaswegian (very) working class drunk philosopher. Apparently bits of the 'sitcom' "Rab C Nesbitt" were shown in the US many years ago ... with additional subtitles, I seem to remember.

Anyway this is Rab at the dole office ranting and raving (originally from the Naked Video tv series, methinks):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k7VoFiagfs

Oh and for UK viewers ... apparently there is a Rab C Nesbitt special coming out soon. You lucky people you .

[macavity]

I haven't been the biggest fan of Nick Pope over the years, often suspecting him of having a fairly unsophisticated nuts & bolts view of ufology. This was by far the best interview I've ever heard with him, though - he seemed a lot more mature in his outlook than I'd heard before. Thanks to Gene and David for getting him on and thanks to Nick for doing the interview.

Personally I'd much rather listen to someone who's honest enough to say "I don't know what's going on" than a sensationalist nutjob anyday...

[Brian Now]

I liked this interview. I wasn't as disappointed with Pope as some people on the forums, but maybe that's because I'm not all that interested in him. I'm interested in how governments deal with unexplained things in the sky and, in that light, Pope has something interesting to say. I was actually more interested in David's shift of tone with Pope than anything else . Seems David might have been feeling the same things I was.

Maybe I am missing something about him by not reading his books, but seems he's got nothing new to offer and probably never will. He can only ride his past credentials for a finite period of time (but in the ufology that could be 30 years though!).
Regardless, I am glad to see a sane, rational person in ufology.

[Live at the Witch Trials]

I found it interesting to hear that he went to the David Icke lecture at Hammersmith.

I wanted to go to that myself.

[Rocketsauce]

I enjoyed the show and more than anything I really thought David asked some great questions!

The Randlesham psych operation question was great, very interesting that Nick has an opinion on how those are normally run I tend to think Vallee made a lot of sense on this. I don't think Nick's justification that it wasn't a psych op because it got out to other departments means much of anything.

I'm probably more confused than ever about Nick. I think it's still completely possible he still works in intelligence and his job is to get this into the public sphere in a certain way while gauging the attitude of others in both the field and general public. But it's equally possible that he is a quirky English bureaucrat who does not want to speculate or go against his security oath.

After reading account after account from credible people about being told not to talk about this stuff, IMO there is just no way that some organization, whether it's american black projects or something else doesn't have more information than we currently have, so for Nick who appears to be informed on this topic to not believe anyone has any more info or there is any coverup seems far fetched to me.

Even if some group just has more in depth info about what happened at Roswell at the least that is more than what we have. So I'm suspicious when Nick says he does not think there is a cover-up and is adament about his government knowing nothing more than we do. Perhaps his government doesn't know exactly what the phenomena is and Nick's job is to get that out there?? I'm tempted to listen to the interview again because there were certain ideas that Nick was very intense on, particularly at the end when David said he thought the governments don't know much, Nick really jumped on that one.

Maybe the stuff he is allowed to talk about really says something in light of what he doesn't say?

If Nick indeed makes a living as a freelance journalist, I would be interested in checking out his income tax statment to see how much money he makes as a freelancer and then do a Lexus Nexis search and see how many articles he has actually written. If it doesn't match up, perhaps he has "other" income sources or perhaps I"m just thinking way too much!!!!!

[Grokl]

Originally Posted by GSB

Hmmmm. A little bit disappointed with Nick. BTW did you guys know hes spent 21 years in GOVT? 21 years!

Ok, I understand theres some things he cant talk about, but seriously you dont have to say WHERE the nuclear bases are.... just indicate whether or not there has been UFO activity associated with them! (which obviously there has or would have denied it I think).

Also, why the hell cant he talk about some strange things hes heard 'on the down low' back stage at a conference after a few drinks? What the bleep has that got to do with his former role in GOVT? NOTHING, thats what.

There was something else he declined to comment on too that I thought was BS, but I cant remember what it was.

I actually agree. I thought Nick was a little...um... "bland" and a lot of this he was just repeating directly like other interviews he's done. He also was way too "careful" when asked some certain questions (or diverted them). The "21 years government" drill answer kept reminding me of a certain "i'm just a simple small town country doctor" that repeats it over, and over, and over - again.

[Apocalypto]

Nick isn't exactly the most eclectic, dynamic guest, but he is smart. His style is a bit too sterile for my taste, but he is entertaining in an intellectual way. In this crazy world of mysterious phenomena, it takes all kinds to tell the story, doesn't it?

For those of you wanting something a little more colorful, Dr. Greer is on the line...

[fitzbew88]

Originally Posted by Irishseekers

Why 1812, pardon my ignorance

Why, the War of 1812 of course.

Doggone Britishers burned down our White House. Made President Madison cry.

We rebuilt it.
Made it better than it was.
Stronger. Faster.
Cost about $6 million USD.

Added a bowling alley.