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[Experiencer7]

Originally Posted by CapnG

Christianity, Mormonism and Scientology seem to be going along just fine and I consider them cults (fundamentalist, evangelical christianity in particular). They're just long-standing with an air of legitimacy, although less so in the case of Mormonism and least so with Scientology, owing to their relative youth. See? It's time-based. The longer they survive, the more legitimacy they achieve.

I don't consider things like Heaven's gate a cult in the classical sense: That's a group of crazy people.

And political clout. Christianity was considered a heretical sect or cult for years after the crucifixion. In fact the word "Christian" was a derisive title bestowed by their' enemies. Oh! yea., a crap load of them died., Martyrs and Saints.
"I say you are Lord, and I should know. I've followed a few" John Cleese from The Life of Brian.

[CapnG]

Originally Posted by Mothra

These groups were cults. But they don't exist anymore cause they all died.

Well that's entirely my point. If any of them had survived they'd probably be religions by now. And by the way I do consider roughly half that list to fit the traditional definition of a cult (large membership being one of my lesser criteria). Another modern example would be that guy who claims he's the anti-christ and gets his followers to tattoo 666 on their bodies.

Originally Posted by Mothra

Man needs his rituals so he created religion.

They needed something to explain the sun, moon stars, and any other shiny object they couldn't explain.

No argument there. I'm just saying that ALL religions, without exception, started as cults and that therefore ANY cult is a potential future religion, it simply has to survive long enough.

[Mothra]

Oh and speaking of the anti-Christ. Isn't there some charismatic politician that the whole world is getting in line behind? spooky.

[Aaron LeClair]

Originally Posted by Mothra

Oh and speaking of the anti-Christ. Isn't there some charismatic politician that the whole world is getting in line behind? spooky.

He's charismatic?

[CapnG]

Originally Posted by Mothra

Oh and speaking of the anti-Christ. Isn't there some charismatic politician that the whole world is getting in line behind? spooky.

If someone tries to assinate him and he is "miraculously" healed, you may have something. Otherwise big deal, there have been charismatic leaders before. Hell, I've seen lengthy arguments declaring everyone from Saddam Hussein to Vladimir Putin to Prince Harry the anti-christ.

Anti-christ is an all-or-nothing gig, you don't score points for being kinda-sorta-maybe-anti-christ.

[Mothra]

Originally Posted by Aaron LeClair

He's charismatic?

Oh the snarkiness is strong in this one.

Ya dude, if you haven't noticed he's like the beatles, Kennedy's and even Hitler. He drew 30,000 in Germany. So ya I would think he's got a little something going on.

[Mothra]

Originally Posted by CapnG

If someone tries to assinate him and he is "miraculously" healed, you may have something. Otherwise big deal, there have been charismatic leaders before. Hell, I've seen lengthy arguments declaring everyone from Saddam Hussein to Vladimir Putin to Prince Harry the anti-christ.

Anti-christ is an all-or-nothing gig, you don't score points for being kinda-sorta-maybe-anti-christ.

Well if you would have paid attention in your Antichrist 101 class Capt, you would know that none of the people mentioned above in your post do not fit the profile of the Anti-Christ (Which is a load of crap by the way). He's a wolf in sheep's clothing, a Trojan horse.

The Cult of Personality (and Ghandi!!) draws many people to his side, which he then betrays and slaughters. Oh and then some dude comes down from the sky and smites him or whatever. and aren't the Jews Christians by now?

Xperiencer7
also the persecution of the Christians is nothing new. It is mans nature to try and destroy discredit anything new that threatens the status quo. The same thing happened to science when it tried to separate from the Vatican.

The Christians started out as an underground movement that basically made each person a child of GOD. Compared to the other religions at the time, this was as radical as saying the earth revolved around the sun. They would kill you for saying this. Christians became legitimate after Constantine officially recognized them and they quickly went downhill when they got a little taste of power. Which is human nature.

Anytime a group of peoples belief system is threatened they will lash out and attack. So a bunch of pagans who worship many Gods start calling the Christians who worship one God a cult really doesn't hold much weight. Its not what they believe so it must be wrong or evil and vilified. Its just Propaganda. Its nothing new.

Oh and Dr. Greer is a poopy head

[CapnG]

Originally Posted by Mothra

Well if you would have paid attention in your Antichrist 101 class Capt, you would know that none of the people mentioned above in your post do not fit the profile of the Anti-Christ (Which is a load of crap by the way). He's a wolf in sheep's clothing, a Trojan horse.

The Cult of Personality (and Ghandi!!) draws many people to his side, which he then betrays and slaughters. Oh and then some dude comes down from the sky and smites him or whatever. and aren't the Jews Christians by now?

You're reading one of those loopy, "New living translations" of revelations, aren't you? F' that! King James, all the way, baby! Stinging locusts and ten-headed beasts ahoy! I wonder how far we are off from a loaf of bread costing a days wage?

[Cosmic Ejaculator 1814]

Obama is NOT the Anti-Christ (according too...Ehm...John Hagee)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mvFspqtGR4

John McCain;

Every inpatient Christians Candidate of Choice!!

[Mothra]

Just doing my part to keep this epic thread going