Moon Landing is a Fake

[Aaron LeClair]

Originally Posted by Con

Now please elaborate this statement, why would this be so?

As I stated, I've touched on this before. See message 6 for elaboration. There it was used in the context of the moon landing. Second time in the context of ufos.

For the record, by ufo I mean unidentified flying object. No more no less.

Great link you provided btw on the laser telescope and mirrors. I was trying to think of that example before to use, but couldn't. One of those things in the back of my mind where the details weren't there in my recollection.

[DVS]

Originally Posted by givinguptheghost

lol

I don't think it was faked. But if I did, I'd stay far away from Buzz.

Definitely, he still packs a punch!

[Aaron LeClair]

Edgar Mitchell's temper flares when he has to deal with people calling him a liar etc. Heard it happen once on Art Bell, and saw it happen on Geraldo years ago. He apologizes after words, but you can tell it gets to him. Don't think Ed has punched anyone due to this sort of thing though.

[Moshi Dayan]

Look at the LLM, specificaly the hatch. A man wearing an EVA pack would not fit through the door.
Stars ARE visible from the lunar surface, but they didn't appear in the films supposedly made by the astronauts.
I was in the television news biz back then. We had to have truck loads of equipment to do a live remote from say 100 miles away.
All they seem to have had on the moon was a prick 10.
Then there is always that Van Allen radiation belt. Scientists of the time said it would take four feet of lead insulation barrier to get a human through it.
Now they say it'll be 20 years before we can put a man on the moon.
We never went to the moon.
The lunar landings were a Disney production.
And then there's always this...
http://landoflegends.us/43ancients/0...ages.html#MENU
Just my humble opinion.

Hell RoX
Sh9l0m

[David Biedny]

Moshi,

Sorry, but we did indeed go to the moon, and more than once.

The most basic knowledge of photography tells you why the stars didn't show up in the photos - the glare of the sun off the lunar surface far overpowered any light that the camera would have picked up from the lunar sky, the exposure time for those photos was never going to allow the starlight to be captured.

Listen, believe whatever you want, but the theory that we didn't go the moon is as far out as the flat earth nonsense.

dB

[Moshi Dayan]

Dave...are you trying to tell me the earth isn't flat?

I'm shocked.

I took my 3 foot level out in the front yard....level/flat.

LOL!!!

The first moonshot had to be faked....we were in a race with the Soviets, and by way of deception did we do racing. The Hatchway problem is real, it would not have been possible to exit the craft in the EVA suit.

Yo! Checkit!

http://landoflegends.us/43ancients/0...ages.html#MENU

"It's full of stars"

I sometimes say things which seem a bit off kilter...I enjoy the forums and am honored that you'd reply to my post.
I'm a fan!
You've made my day!
ThanX
Moshi

Hell R0X
sh9l0m

[Aaron LeClair]

If you haven't already Moshi, have a look at the site I linked awhile back.
http://www.braeunig.us/space/hoax.htm

At least some of what you mentioned is dealt with there. Unfortunately, I do not recall if all of it is, since it has been months since I read that page.

I'll check out the page you linked for details on what you are referring to hopefully later. For now I need sleep.

[David Biedny]

Moshi,

I'm very happy to have made your day with my response... easiest thing I did all day! :-)

Please read the excellent link provided by A.LeClair, it does a really good job of wrapping up the whole moon hoax thing. Personally, I am sad that the most momentous achievement of the human race is somehow subject to being rewritten and questioned - it's not right, and a dishonor to the brave men and women who have given their lives to the space program. We did indeed go to the moon, and it's a pity that the wonder and amazement of that amazing set of events has faded into history. Really.

dB

[Aaron LeClair]

Everything you mention is dealt with at the page I linked Moshi.
David touched on the stars already. Here's some details on the hatch.

http://www.braeunig.us/space/hoax.htm

"The astronauts could not pass through the tunnel connecting the Command Module and the Lunar Module with their spacesuits and backpacks on."

Finally the hoax advocates are correct about something. Fortunately, the astronauts did not have to! Their EVA suits and backpacks were stowed in the Lunar Module the whole time. The only time the astronauts donned their suits and packs were when they actually egressed the LM for surface activities on the Moon.

"The astronauts could not have egressed the Lunar Module because they could not fit through the hatch and there was insufficient room to open the hatch in the LM. "

The hoax advocate who came up with this claim is badly misinformed. The astronauts were positioned on either side of the cockpit panel with the main EVA hatch between them. The hatch, hinged on the right side, swung inward to open, effectively trapping the Lunar Module Pilot (LMP) momentarily on his side of the LM. (There was plenty of room to open the hatch.) Once the Commander egressed, the LMP was able to close the hatch, move over to the left side, and exit himself.

As to the issue of whether the astronauts could fit through the hatch, clearly they could. There are many photos and video, both on the Moon and while in training, showing fully suited astronauts crawling through the hatch. There are a couple possible sources for this misinformation. First, early versions of the LM had a round hatch that hampered astronaut egress, however the original round hatch was changed to a rectangular hatch while the LM was still in development. Second, as I hear the story, a hoax advocate compared the width of the LM's hatch to dimensional data on the astronauts' spacesuit, or EMU (Extravehicular Mobility Unit). It was found that the published width of the EMU exceeded the hatch width. What the hoax advocate failed to realize is the EMU dimension was the maximum width measured across the elbows. When crawling through the hatch, an astronaut would draw his arms in under his body, thus decreasing his width and allowing him to pass through the opening.

[Moshi Dayan]

Rats!
Foiled again.
Just kidding, I'm one who is glad when disabused of incorrect ideas.
I remember the first landing, I was at old Dutch's whore house, it was a red two story shiplap building right by the train station (they had a couple of really strange girls upstairs. the bottom was a store and visiting area) I enjoyed old Dutch...she could tell some whoppers...and would treat a guy to a coke on a hot day. I bought my own though since they were only six cents.
I'm going to have to read that link to see how they handled the Van Allen Belt though.
Thank you for the linkage!
I'm reading over the "ya want us to show up" letter right now.
Thanks again A. LeClair...you too David.

Hell R0X
Sh9l0m