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Old 12-11-2007, 07:29 AM
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I think the Hopi Indians have a 2012 myth and that silly bible code also states 2012 stuff.

I imagine a bunch of books and hysteria. Remember hale Bop? That scared me because people were just going nuts over that. I remember all the remote viewing people on Art Bell who were in contact with the spaceship that was tagging along with it.
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Can you please provide details on what other cultures place significance on 2012?
Terrence McKenna's timewave zero graph also leads to 2012; if I remember correctly.
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:44 PM
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Can you please provide details on what other cultures place significance on 2012?
Terrence McKenna's timewave zero graph also leads to 2012; if I remember correctly.
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As far as I know Terrence McKenna is not a culture.
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Default RE: 2012 and the maya

what I hear constantly attached to this is pole shift, which is something that exists in geological record, and it has happened many times throughout the earth's history. Whether these shifts have been linked to mass dissapearance of species or not I have not heard, but supposedly it causes massive destruction on the surface, plus all our magneticly dependent technology would probably be at least temporarily screwed.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:26 PM
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Wikipedia has a couple of good entries on this.

The pseudoscientific explanation called "Pole Shift Theory" can be read about here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_shift

The scientific explanation called "Geomagnetic Reversal" can be read about here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal
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As far as I know Terrence McKenna is not a culture.
Actually, he based it on a Chinese sequence called King Wen (Book of Changes)...Last time I checked, China had the largest culture on the planet. You’re forgiven. :P
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As far as I know Terrence McKenna is not a culture.
Actually, he based it on a Chinese sequence called King Wen (Book of Changes)...Last time I checked, China had the largest culture on the planet. You’re forgiven. :P
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I think you have your references confused. King Wen was not a book, but a person: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Wen King Wen was the base that formed the Zhou Dynasty: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhou_Dynasty which in turn went on to found modern Chinese philosophy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_philosophy

However, none of these seem to have anything to do with the year 2012.
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Default RE: 2012 and the maya

There are a number of possibilities , and I do take the solar information
seriously,therefore I think at any time during these next 10 years we
could have some rough time here on planet blue. Whether you can pin
point that to a specific date is my doubt, but I do have a open mind.
Just out of curiosity , do you think maybe they just ran out of calendar
stone?
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As far as I know Terrence McKenna is not a culture.
Actually, he based it on a Chinese sequence called King Wen (Book of Changes)...Last time I checked, China had the largest culture on the planet. You’re forgiven. :P
Hi there.

I think you have your references confused. King Wen was not a book, but a person: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Wen King Wen was the base that formed the Zhou Dynasty: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhou_Dynasty which in turn went on to found modern Chinese philosophy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_philosophy

However, none of these seem to have anything to do with the year 2012.


Hello back...Fact: King Wen IS a book of Chinese symbols in a sequence that Terrance McKenna used to make timewave zero. Search the net for King Wen sequence. Here it is in the source you are using:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Wen_sequence
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Just out of curiosity , do you think maybe they just ran out of calendar stone?
That's exactly what happened. Take a look earlier in the thread to see my posts about the long count calendars.
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